E854 | Building Wealth As A Clinical Entrepreneur

How to Build Wealth as a Clinical Entrepreneur

In this episode, Doc Danny Matta explains why your clinic is more than just a way to replace your salary—it’s your best wealth-building asset. He shares five practical steps based on his own journey, lessons from mentors, and mistakes he’s made along the way. The key theme: treat your clinic like the investment it is, and everything else flows from that.

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Episode Summary

• Core thesis: Your clinic is your greatest wealth-building tool. Double down on it first.

• Step 1: Stop investing outside the business early on—reinvest everything back into your practice.

• Step 2: Grow your income until you have more money than you know what to do with.

• Step 3: Avoid chasing tax-driven investments—make sure the investment itself is solid first.

• Step 4: Keep outside investing simple, liquid, and automated (index funds, Roth, brokerage).

• Step 5: Refocus on your clinic. Improving your business is still the #1 driver of income and wealth.

The Five Wealth-Building Steps

1. Reinvest first. Don’t spread yourself thin with outside investments until your clinic is profitable and stable.

2. Scale income. Push until your take-home is far beyond your expenses, leaving a true surplus.

3. Avoid shiny tax tricks. Complex strategies often cost more in time, energy, and stress than they’re worth.

4. Automate simple wealth. Choose straightforward investments you don’t need to babysit.

5. Refocus on the clinic. Small improvements in team, culture, and systems compound into higher income and business value.

Why This Matters

• Cash flow: Clinics provide steady, predictable income if run well.

• De-risking: Building wealth outside the clinic reduces pressure and stress.

• Exit optionality: You may one day sell for a few million, but even if you don’t, you’ve created income and wealth that supports your family.

• Generational wealth: Pairing a strong business with simple outside investments creates long-term security.

Pro Tips You Can Use Today

• Audit where your money is going and redirect outside investments into your clinic’s growth.

• Don’t let your spending grow at the same rate as your income—avoid lifestyle creep.

• Only pursue investments you understand and can keep simple.

• Think “barbell strategy”: your clinic is the high-risk/high-reward side, balance it with simple, safe assets.

Notable Quotes

• “The best financial decision I ever made was to stop investing outside of my clinic and pour it all back into growing my business.”

• “Don’t let tax loopholes drive your investing. Solid investment first, tax benefit second.”

• “Your clinic is your core asset. Improve that, and everything else follows.”

Action Items

• Redirect your outside investments into your clinic until it’s consistently profitable.

• Once you have a surplus, automate simple outside investments.

• Stop chasing complex tax shelters.

• Review your clinic’s systems, team, and profitability this quarter.

Programs Mentioned

• Clinical Rainmaker: The proven path to go full-time in your clinic.

• Mastermind: Scale beyond yourself into space, team, and systems.

• PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge (Free): Get clear on expenses, visit targets, pricing, and a one-page plan to go full-time.

Resources & Links

• PT Biz Website 

• Free 5-Day PT Biz Challenge 

About Danny:
Danny Matta has over 15 years of experience in the profession—staff PT, active-duty military PT, cash-practice founder, and business owner. Through PT Biz, he’s helped 1,000+ clinicians start, grow, and scale their own cash-based practices.

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Podcast Transcript

Danny: [00:00:00] Hey, Danny Matta here, founder of PT Biz, and today we are talking about how to build wealth as a clinical entrepreneur. [00:00:10] So the idea of wealth building is interesting. I, I think for most of us, we just honestly are trying to [00:00:20] have enough income to do the things that we need to do with our families, right? And, and live a life that we want.

And when you have a job. That is, [00:00:30] uh, probably just the goal of most people and maybe get a chance to save a little bit of money on the side and hopefully that you, hopefully you are. But if you decide to take the risk to go into business for [00:00:40] yourself and you decide that you're going to, uh, you know, really work towards building this business, uh, in this case a clinic, you put yourself [00:00:50] in a position to have the opportunity to be able to make far more money than you could working for somebody else if you're successful and.

That is just the reality [00:01:00] of the risk versus reward, that's any business. And in this scenario, we're gonna talk about a clinic and how that can be a wealth building tool [00:01:10] for you. Now I'm gonna talk about five steps that I see that you should focus on in different portions of this journey of [00:01:20] building a, a clinic and entrepreneurship.

So number one. When you get started, and this was advice that I got from a mentor that at the time I thought was pretty [00:01:30] aggressive, but I took it anyway because I thought that he knew better than I did. And it turns out that he did. And that was to stop investing in anything outside of your business. So [00:01:40] when I started my practice, this mentor, I had said, Hey, listen, anything that you're investing outside of this, anything you're putting in towards retirement or [00:01:50] any sort of investment that you might have.

That is not your core business. You need to stop investing in that and you need to redirect all of that to your business. And he [00:02:00] was very much right about that, but I had a very hard time with that. I'd actually started putting money into, at the time, like Roth IRA investment vehicles when I was like 17 years old.

[00:02:10] Um, and I had been putting money into that since then, right? I mean, at the time when I, when we got out the, out of the army to start, uh, athlete's potential. I was [00:02:20] 29, so for 12 years I'd been putting at least some amount of money into these Roth IRA vehicles. And for me to stop that was pretty hard to do.

Uh, it [00:02:30] was just something that was a habit that I'd built and I thought a really important habit that I'd built, which for sure it it is, but it, stopping doing that and taking the money that I would put towards that and putting it back [00:02:40] into, you know, building the business up, uh, getting help on learning how to run a business equipment for the business.

Investing in marketing for the business, all these things that we could put that money towards, [00:02:50] it helped us accelerate the growth of that. Business much faster. And for us to go from just starting to then having three, four providers within a couple years, um, with a standalone [00:03:00] space and, and being able to essentially, uh, triple if not quadruple what I was making whenever I was in the army as a captain when I got out, [00:03:10] that that's what happened over the course of a couple years and it, and, and there was no investment in anything outside that, and it was a ton of investment back in the business.

It's because the best thing you can do [00:03:20] is grow your income stream. Is, is grow your your business to a point where you have more profitability and you're able to pay yourself more from that business. These [00:03:30] are not, um. These are not software companies that are gonna have this huge pop on the exit when you sell.

Like they're not gonna sell for a, a 10 x multiple of top line [00:03:40] revenue. Like that's not gonna happen. But what these do have is great cash flow, and they're really, really solid businesses that are, they're hard to ruin, honestly. They're [00:03:50] hard to mess up because. The problem exists that people have injuries.

People wanna work on their health and wellness. Uh, they don't change very fast, right? So kind of the idea of [00:04:00] what goes up fast comes down fast. Like these don't change very quickly and they do spit off a lot of cashflow. They can be quite profitable if run correctly. So step one, [00:04:10] stop investing in anything outside of your business until you hit step two, which is you grow this until you.

Don't know what to do with all the income [00:04:20] that you have, right? So let's say you're used to making 80, $80,000 a year, and now all of a sudden you're making $250,000 a year, [00:04:30] uh, in take home income from the business as you've grown this. And that could take a, a few years to grow to that point, by the way.

So, and everybody's a bit, a bit different. I've seen people do that in [00:04:40] 18 months as far as take home income is concerned. I've seen people that takes them. Five, six years to get to the same place. So it just depends. It depends on your context, your skillset, uh, [00:04:50] your environment, you know, your willingness to really learn how to be a good business owner.

That's the biggest difference that I see. So once you get to this point, and let's assume, and this is a big assumption by the way, [00:05:00] that you don't just start spending everything that you make. And this is probably the biggest mistake that people will make in this process. And I'll say that this isn't [00:05:10] necessarily part of the five things that I'm gonna talk about, but.

You, you, you can't necessarily do this without, right? Like you could make a million dollars a year, but if you spend a million dollars a [00:05:20] year, you end up in the same place. I don't even know how you'd spend that much money to be honest with you, but I'm sure you could do it and you would still end up with, you'd be at net zero, [00:05:30] right?

Like you, you wouldn't have any more than you started with. And it's not what you make, it's what you keep. It's what you save, it's what you invest because that builds wealth outside of [00:05:40] your income streams, which is your business, right? Or the, the volatility of the business. And it's really important. So let's say you're used to making 80, maybe, [00:05:50] you know, lifestyle increases.

You have a bit of lifestyle creep, and now you're, you're, you're living like you make a hundred thousand, but you make two 50. There's, there's a big [00:06:00] difference there. There's a couple big differences. So number one, obviously you have a delta of $150,000 in terms of what you're making versus what you're spending.

The other big thing, taxes. [00:06:10] So you pay more taxes, so you're not gonna initially have that $150,000 net. You're gonna have a reduction in that based on a higher tax bracket that you're in, but you're still gonna have quite a lot of [00:06:20] money that you can now invest into other things, but don't stop reinvesting in the business until you hit a point where you literally feel like.

You don't know what to do with the income that you have 'cause [00:06:30] you have far more than what you're spending. And even then, you should still continue to reinvest in your business, right? This is over a decade in, I still work with [00:06:40] mentors. I hire coaches for things that I'm trying to learn because I'm not done.

I, I, I still have a lot to do. I'm still trying to learn a lot. I'm trying to implement a lot, and I view it as an investment in the business just like I did whenever [00:06:50] I stopped investing outside of it to double down on our practice so that we could grow it. And it was the best decision, the hands down, best financial decision that I ever made.

Period. [00:07:00] That's it. There's nothing I look back on and say, holy shit. That changed the trajectory of my family's life the way it did when as, as, as far as me starting a clinic, [00:07:10] and it could be any business, I guess doesn't really matter, but like me learning how to become a business owner was the best investment that I've ever made, ever.

[00:07:20] So you've gotta look at your business as that. It's an investment. So put your money back into it. Instead of putting into Google or Apple or the s and p 500 or whatever, [00:07:30] put it back into your business and view that as a company that you're investing in, not necessarily just your little clinic that you started, right?

It's more than that if you treat it that way. So [00:07:40] once you get to the the point where you have more income than you have to do with that moves to step north. Three. Okay, so step one, invest in the business until you know you've grown at a ton. [00:07:50] Uh, two, get to a point where you have far more, you know, income than you know what to do with step number three.

It's to stay away from a mistake that I see a lot. And this [00:08:00] actually is something that I've made mistakes with this myself. I've recently had clients that we work with that have reached out about, uh, tax mitigation strategies and [00:08:10] tax strategy and how they can pay you less in taxes. And I will say, I'll say this, step number three is do not look for investments that are based on tax efficiency [00:08:20] first initially.

And. There's a lot of information that you can, that you can get exposed to, um, that usually has to do with things like alternative [00:08:30] investments, uh, oil and gas, clean energy, uh, real estate, syndications, things of that nature. Or maybe it's even physical real estate that you own where you can use tax advantages [00:08:40] in order to, you know, be able to reduce your taxable income.

These are real strategies and I've implemented some of these myself. Um, and I've, I've paid a handful of [00:08:50] people to be. Strategists and consultants to look at what we're doing and give us a better idea of how we can reduce our taxable income, which sounds great. Okay. Sounds [00:09:00] awesome. But as a busy entrepreneur, here's what I want you to think about.

If somebody says, Hey, here's these cool strategies that are gonna reduce X amount in [00:09:10] taxes. That's awesome on paper. That sounds great. The implementation of those things in my experience is far more energy, costly time. [00:09:20] Costly, mental bandwidth, costly and potentially financially costly. Unless you do a great job of the vetting this investment or getting the right piece of [00:09:30] real estate, that you can have this pretty hands off the cash flows, which is very hard to find.

And getting a tax benefit along the way. The other thing is many of these tax [00:09:40] benefits are transient. Meaning if you take that benefit and let's say you have a piece of property and then you sell it, you pay taxes back on that called [00:09:50] recapture tax. So you have to be long-term hold and. If you want to continue to do it, you have to keep investing and something that is very illiquid.

And here's what I mean by that. [00:10:00] If I was to buy a property, let's say I have to put 20% down. Let's say the property costs $500,000, I have to put a hundred thousand dollars down. On the property now, if I put a hundred thousand dollars down on the [00:10:10] property, but that property saves me $40,000 in taxes, I guess technically I'm only in for 60, but I still have a lot of [00:10:20] cash that's locked up in that, and I cannot access that if I need to.

And being an entrepreneur, our income is not guaranteed. It can swing up and [00:10:30] down. Sometimes, you know, yearly based on how things are going, and maybe you, you plateau or you have a dip because of whatever thing happens in your business, or maybe you have a great [00:10:40] year, whatever. It's harder to plan financially what's gonna happen because the business is a bit more erratic than somebody who has a job, right?

That has like a W2 job and they know what they make every single month. [00:10:50] So number three is when you go to then start to invest outside of your business. Don't do it based on tax. First, it should be, is this a [00:11:00] solid, safe investment? And then what are the tax implications, if any, associated with that? I can tell you I have lost more money trying to [00:11:10] save money in taxes than basically anything that I've ever done, and that sucks to say that it's not a good lesson learned.

So. Hopefully you can hear what [00:11:20] I'm saying and not do the same things and not get caught up in, oh, this sucks to pay this much and whatever. It's just like, listen, sure. But it's the cost of doing business [00:11:30] with the opportunity to have businesses in the us. That's just the way, it's okay. That's the way that I look at it now 'cause it's not really worth my time and I wanna be as efficient as I can be, but I don't wanna do these wildly complex [00:11:40] strategies that are gonna take a significant amount of time or me to have a team that I have to try to implement.

I already got shit to do in these, in businesses. Why? Why am I gonna try to do [00:11:50] something outside of it that's gonna take a ton of time, that's gonna be far lower of a return on my, uh, time and attention. So step three, do not try to invest in something for tax purposes first. [00:12:00] It always has to be a solid investment first.

If it's a good tax advantage, it's icing on the cake. Okay, number four, keep it. Super [00:12:10] simple and low risk ideally. Okay, so I'm not gonna tell you what to invest in specifically, but what I will say is if [00:12:20] you can put money aside into things that are very easy for you to just. Put it into, and you don't have to think it about it at all, and it's in a safe, [00:12:30] conservative, you know, investment.

Uh, and it's liquid. Meaning if you needed access to it, you could sell it pretty quickly. That's usually the best [00:12:40] place to put it. Now, that could be, maybe your company has your own 401k, maybe you put it into a Roth, IRA. Maybe you put it into a brokerage account that's taxable, but you know, it's [00:12:50] taxed after and it grows tax free unless you sell it.

Um, and you can put this into very conservative things that still have good rates of returns. This could literally be a ETF or an electronically [00:13:00] traded fund. That's a basket of, uh, of, of companies, you know, that are like the s and p 500. So 500 biggest companies in, in the us. You could put it into [00:13:10] even broader, uh, index funds than that, that are basically every stock in the world, right?

And, and it just depends on what you want to do. And I'm not here to tell you exactly what you should invest in and how [00:13:20] much you should put in that or anything like that. But what you want to look at is taking that excess money you feel comfortable with and putting it into something very simple that you don't have to [00:13:30] think about all the time.

And this is something that I didn't do for years. In fact, I didn't have. Any exposure outside of the money that we had put in in a [00:13:40] 401k in the Army, like their version of, it's called A TSP and the money had been putting into Roth IRA since time I was 17. In stocks. Everything else that we, that we [00:13:50] had was businesses, alternative investments.

Um, outside of that, and in the last few years, what I've realized is the complexity that I was [00:14:00] adding to what I was doing was not worth it. It wasn't worth it. 'cause if I had just put it into something simple, my returns would've been the same, if not better. And I wouldn't have had. All this [00:14:10] additional time and effort and stress around tax season.

Uh, trying to get all these, like K ones from different things that you're investing in and working with accountants on the [00:14:20] complexity and the additional cost to actually submit a return because of this. All of that is just wasn't, it's not worth it. Right. And at this point, for me, it's just like.

[00:14:30] Whatever money that we wanna invest. Boom. I throw it over into these investments. It gets allocated into what I, what I want, and then I don't really think about it too much, and that is like far better [00:14:40] because it allows me to focus on the businesses that we have it, it allows me to focus on adding value there, which can dramatically increase.

Your take home income, your [00:14:50] value of your business, right? Which does have intrinsic value. And we'll talk about that in a second. I'm not even putting that in here necessarily in terms of building wealth. But, but for you to have something simple, [00:15:00] um, is very much worth it, it's very, very worth it. And 'cause you gotta keep in mind, not only are you taking yourself away from your business, whenever you do things like this and these complex strategies, you're taking yourself away from your [00:15:10] family.

You're taking yourself away from hobbies and, and friends and free time and things that you need. To do, to decompress from the stressful life that is running a [00:15:20] business. And now you add on an additional layer of stress that you don't even understand that well, because you think it's a, it's, it's a, it's a better way to save money on taxes and, and speed up your [00:15:30] returns.

Like it usually doesn't work out right. It doesn't work out as well as being patient and letting things compound. So step four is make it super simple. And it [00:15:40] automate it, right? And, and don't think about it. It should be that easy to do. So number five, if you do these things, you're going to de-risk a couple [00:15:50] things.

Number one, you're not spending everything that you make. So you have money left over to invest. You're putting into something that is outside of your business, so you're building wealth [00:16:00] outside of your business, which by the way, most entrepreneurs do not do this. They put everything they have, they double down over and over and over again on [00:16:10] their business.

And if that business doesn't work out or they're unable to sell it one day. They have everything tied up in this one vehicle, and [00:16:20] it's incredibly stressful for them. Imagine if you're able to build significant wealth somewhere that is completely insulated from how your business does. It's [00:16:30] almost like you're building the safety net outside of your business that allows you to make better decisions in your business, to have less stress in your business and in your daily life.

So [00:16:40] doing so allows you to refocus on your business and really play the game the way that you want. And maybe take a bigger swing or maybe go for something that's a bigger vision that you have, or [00:16:50] just be more efficient and effective with your business so that you can have a better revenue stream, a better valuation on your business.

So it allows you to then refocus. So step [00:17:00] five is refocus on your core asset because in the end of the day, your ability to increase your income is directly tied to how your business does your ability to. Increase the [00:17:10] valuation of your business is directly tied to how your business does. And there's a, you can make a strong statement that literally there's nothing you can do that's going to be as beneficial as [00:17:20] improving that core asset.

And here's why people tend to deviate from this. It's because of redundancy of people getting bored, of people looking for [00:17:30] something else to do, because most entrepreneurs, myself included, we're slightly. A DD or we, we, we jump around to other things. We like these shiny objects and we [00:17:40] we're, we want to like to test this new thing.

And we get excited about that. And the reality is, at a certain point, your business is boring. And that's a good thing. 'cause you're making small iterations on [00:17:50] improving your team, your processes, your culture. Uh, you know, I improving. Even profitability in the business by, by [00:18:00] making small improvements or growing the size of it and improving it that way, like whatever it is that you want to do, you can be creative in your own business.

You don't have to search for other things outside of that. But if you can do that, I want you to think about this [00:18:10] for a second. When someone has a job, they cannot sell their job whenever they leave. It's not how it works. Not unless you're a partner in some way, in some [00:18:20] firm or, or a company. You can't, you can't.

You'll work for a PT clinic as a clinic director, you get an income and that's it, right? And then, alright, you [00:18:30] leave and you can't sell it. You can sell your business. You can sell a clinic. We've helped a number of clinics do so. Now, is it gonna be a 10 x of your top line [00:18:40] revenue? Uh, like a software company?

It will not be, no, in most cases. When we look at what these businesses are valued at, and it very much depends on the size of them, [00:18:50] but a smaller clinic, let's call it, you know, maybe a a million dollar top line clinic that's pretty profitable. You know, maybe they're 30% profitability, somewhere in that range.

Well, they're [00:19:00] gonna probably trade somewhere around that. Someone will buy that for probably three to four, three to five times profit. Let's call it that, right? Maybe a little bit more, a little bit less. It depends on [00:19:10] a lot of factors. Many, many factors. If it's bigger. Let's say you grow to five, 10 million top line clinic, uh, clinic, and you have a few million dollars in profit, well, that's gonna push you up into a [00:19:20] higher multiple range.

And that's actually a lot of money, right? I mean, I don't know what a lot of money is to anybody listening to this, but to me that's a ton of money. You know, if you can sell for a few million [00:19:30] dollars a business that when you're, when you don't wanna run it anymore, uh, that's a pretty fantastic way to end your career with that, with that business.

And be able to have [00:19:40] money to then move on to the next thing that you want to do or to, to retire or whatever it's, you wanna do. I, I don't know, it doesn't really matter. But if you focus on your core business to step [00:19:50] five, you make it as good as possible. It puts you in a position to increase your income, which allows you to then invest more outside your business and potentially sell your business one day.

But if you don't, and let's [00:20:00] just say you get to a point where you just, you can't sell your business, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't work out. Whatever. There's no buyer for it. There's no market for it. And this is sort of worst [00:20:10] case scenario for you, but you've created something that's let's, let's be honest, you've helped a lot of people along the way.

You have employed fantastic people that like what they do. [00:20:20] You know, you've built a really cool culture and you've created an income stream for yourself that's allowed you to invest in things outside of your business. There ain't that much to be mad about. [00:20:30] You're in a pretty good spot and. If you can sell it, it's the icing on the cake.

Fantastic. Right. That's the way that I look at it with the businesses that, that I [00:20:40] have, you know, and I've even sold a, a clinic and so, you know, it's, it's something that's. To me, I think you have to look at it as it's an option. It happens. But if you can be in a [00:20:50] position where you, you're not dependent on the sale of the business, it's gonna help you so much in terms of stress, making the right decisions, and really focusing on the things that matter the most in the business so that it increase the [00:21:00] profitability, which is predictable, that cash flow is predictable and the cash flow can fund your life and be invested in things outside of it that build wealth not tied to [00:21:10] your business.

And this is what you gotta think about it. Think of it like a barbell. Your business is over here. This is risk, and this is not risky, okay? If you have a, a ton [00:21:20] of monetary, you know, uh, just income and value tied up in the risk side, you wanna offset that with non-risky things. What I'm talking about putting something in an etf, something [00:21:30] very simple, very safe.

That way you're not just doubling down on risk, risk, risk, risk, and you've now put a barbell in place that evens that out to some degree. That's the way to think about it. [00:21:40] So, in summary, lemme go through these five again. So, number one. Stop investing in anything outside of your business. I know that sounds weird, and just double down on your business.

Number two, grow that until you have [00:21:50] more money than you know what to do with. Number three, do not get sucked into tax loophole. First, tax advantage, first investments, especially if they sound [00:22:00] complex and you need a team of people and engineers and tax attorneys and CPAs to help you put that shit together.

I can tell you, you probably don't make enough money to do that. If you [00:22:10] are running a clinic, number four, alright? Make it simple. Make it automated. Take a portion of that money, hopefully more than than you even think [00:22:20] you, you can invest. Like invest as much as you can over here in something that's liquid and simple.

Alright? Not tied up in a physical asset or a alternative investment of some sort. [00:22:30] And number five, refocus all of your efforts on your business to continue to iterate that and prove that. Make that the best business you can. It's going to increase your take home [00:22:40] pay. It's gonna increase the value of the, your business and the icing on the top for you.

At the end of the day, when you're done with your businesses, maybe it's selling that and having a, a [00:22:50] windfall of money on top of that, or a pop on the exit that really puts you into a position where you have true. Generational family wealth. Okay? And even if that doesn't happen, [00:23:00] you should be in a really, really solid financial position by doing what I've already just talked about.

So I hope this helps you. This is something that, um, man, I wish somebody would've explained this to me. Uh, [00:23:10] in a little bit more simple terms. Frankly, I probably wouldn't have listened. Maybe you're like me and you're stubborn and you're just gonna do what you're gonna do anyway. But this comes from personal experience.

This comes from [00:23:20] mistakes that I've made, uh, and what I wish I would've done different, to be honest with you. This is what I'm sharing with you. So I hope this helps you. If you're a clinician and you [00:23:30] are, you know, growing your clinic and, and, and really trying to build a, uh, a rock solid business. You know, I would highly recommend taking a look at PT bs.

This is the, the company that I started. This is a [00:23:40] company that we've now helped over a thousand clinicians work with. There's, there's not a single person in the, uh, in, in the business education space, uh, in, in healthcare as far as like physical therapy in particular [00:23:50] goes. That's worked with as many people, and we're really proud to say that we, we, we have alumni of PT bids all across the country that's doing great.

If you want help with your business, you want to. Be around a [00:24:00] group of like-minded clinicians and really learn how to be a great business owner. To be a business owner that owns a clinic, not a clinician that owns a business. Uh, and that's a very different thing to [00:24:10] understand and to come at it from that angle.

We'd love to have a conversation with you and see if there's a fit. And if not, no big deal. We can point you in the right direction, uh, for what you may need to learn or may need to, you know, [00:24:20] focus on. But at the end of the day, we just wanna share with what, with you, what's working, you know, be honest about that.

Uh, help people really grow these mission-driven businesses, which. There's a lot more [00:24:30] there for us than the monetary side of it. We, in the last 12 months, the groups that, you know, that we work with, the clinics we work with, have helped about 65,000 new patients, uh, get the help that they need. You know, [00:24:40] really get back to things that they like to do and, and, and avoid the, the, the hornet's nest that is healthcare, you know, the traditional healthcare.

Um, so it's a big deal for us. It's a, it's a [00:24:50] mission-driven, uh, you know, vision for us, it's something that, it's my profession. This is, this is important to me. So, you know, if you wanna work with people like that. We're the people that help you with your business. So head of [00:25:00] physical therapy biz.com if that interests you.

And if you just want the content, we're here for you. Been here for, uh, many, many years and we're not going anywhere. So as always, thanks for listening. Watching Catch up. Next [00:25:10] one.